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Re: Seattle by Klauss 12 y
The first severe AF crash I had in Seattle while working at MSFT. (I dont like Seattle and MSFT since). Later I found that there are a clinic that specializes in AF treatment. It was listed at Dr. Wilson web site. Did you try it?http://tahomaclinicblog.com/managing-stress-and-adrenal-fatigue/Klauss 775 hits
Forum: Adrenal Fatigue
www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=2090986Re: Dr. Weil skeptical of AF by #181311
11 y
I dont even think a prisoner on death row for a crime they didnt commit would be jealous of the man, sorry, person you are.But anyone with AF is of course jealous of others that dont and have never had AF. Toxic Hunger dosent exist, so therefore you cured a non-existant and made up illness with an unbalanced diet created by a supplement pusher. The very things you attack others for. Hysterical.Enjoy your supplements big man! 5,425 hits
Forum: Adrenal Debate
www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=2167103Re: GAS model outdated and inaccurate... by natway
11 y
How fast do people die from Cushings? I see no where that people die rather quickly from it, so seems people would live long enough to where, according to the theory of AF, their adrenals would gas out before they died. AF would affectively prevent Cushings. 3,182 hits
Forum: Adrenal Debate
www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=2166900Re: New and confused. I think I have AF? by wiredgeneration
11 y
RDAs dont matter when dealing with AF.Its offical, you are NATWAY. I will now only refer to you as Natway, and hopefully others will too.Potassium is terrible for AF sufferers - common known fact as of our high levels of potassium and low sodium - impaired adrenal function. Dear god, please go and troll another forum!!!!! Why do you troll this one? there are loads others that your advice might actually be useful for. 1,685 hits
Forum: Adrenal Fatigue
www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=2165122Re: Who is the biggest troll on Curezone? by Faith110
11 y
For me, its a toss up between Natway from the Af forum (now banned and residing in the AF debate forum), and our friend #155216, the anonymous liver troll. Natways been around longer, but #155216 is a whole other level of obnoxiousness! 1,072 hits
Forum: Fight Club
www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=2165378Re: GAS model outdated and inaccurate... by natway
11 y
The AF forum is full of former high energy people. They often went through periods of [not] being able to handle more stress than normal.If I can jump in, I agree with that, but that has nothing to do with their adrenal glands, so all those adrenal building supplements are a big waste of money and also diverts people from treating the real problem, like under-eating that is affecting almost everyone in the AF support section. 3,274 hits
Forum: Adrenal Debate
www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=2166225Re: Natway, anorexia symptoms by c.b.
11 y
Whoops! 2,842 hits
Forum: Adrenal Debate
www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=2167471Re: Natway, anorexia symptoms by natway
11 y
Keep in mind that Im not saying AF is strictly anorexia. Im saying AF is starvation/malnutrition caused by prolonged calorie-restriction, such as anorexia or other eating disorders, but also by accidentally under-eating from living a busy lifestyle, or those who were condition that you have to eat at a calorie-deficit to lose weight and maintain being slim but not to the point of them necessarily having an eating disorder.Calorie-restriction is calorie-restriction no matter what the cause. 2,895 hits
Forum: Adrenal Debate
www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=2167396Re: Natway, anorexia symptoms by c.b.
11 y
but I believe the evidence overwhelmingly shows that AF is really malnutrition/starvationWhat evidence? You discriminately chose symptoms from several different sites on anorexia and matched them to some of the symptoms of AF. The real question is what are the agreed upon symptoms of anorexia? Each site you listed had varying opinions of what anorexia symptoms are. 2,980 hits
Forum: Adrenal Debate
www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=2167457Re: Add cautionary note to AF support section about under... by natway
11 y
Its not one blanket rule for everyone, its a caution to only those who are under-eating.What happens if someone comes to the AF support forum who thinks they have AF, but really is suffering from anorexia? How are people going to know thats what this person is really suffering from if the symptoms are identical? I hardly see anyone in the support forum asking people to be sure they are not under-eating. 4,194 hits
Forum: Webmaster D.
www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=2168916Re: This is a good article if you have hang ups either way. by #181311
11 y
#127161 and Fectoid - Keep up the good work. I am going away on holiday tomorrow for a few weeks, but keep exposing the village idiot in my absence, would be much appreciated by all AF and future AF sufferers! Ill be back soon to make sure he continues to be exposed as the disrespectful plank that he is :) 3,850 hits
Forum: Adrenal Debate
www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=2173176Re: Have Adrenal Fatigue? No You Don't. by natway
11 y
Well it doesnt really matter anymore because I did a comprehensive comparison showing that all the symptoms and conditions blamed on AF are actually caused by malnutrition/starvation which proves my theory that what people think is AF is really the consequences of prolonged under-eating and under-eating also causes 13,856 hits
Forum: Adrenal Debate Quackery Questioning Beliefs Debate Medical Ethics Facts and Myths
www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=2178970Re: Old Injuries - Inflammation During a Crash by wiredgeneration
11 y
couldnt afford that Blue Ice stuff, so using Nordic Naturals.I really wouldnt believe everything you read on the net dude, it will fry your brain, one site says this, one site says that, look at all the insane information on Curezone which would damage people with hardcore AF, funnily it generally is ALL given by people who have never had AF. Scary :) Im doing ok dude, hope you are too, ill return your email one day soon! 1,205 hits
Forum: Adrenal Fatigue
www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=2173564Re: Add cautionary note to AF support section about under... by natway
11 y
I keep meeting people in the AF section who are under-eating. Please add some kind of notice at the top of the AF support section letting people know that calorie-restriction is a very common cause to peoples fatigue. 4,019 hits
Forum: Webmaster D.
www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=2174042Re: Some test results...what do you make of this? by purplepixie
12 y
Hey twinkl,Your thyroid lab results are easier to read if you include the lab ranges. Each lab has different ranges.H.Pylori could be causing HPA axis imbalance, ive read accounts of symptoms similar to AF from people with H.Pylori.Its definately worth starting on a protocol to get rid of that from your system to see if symptoms improve.Salt and potassium high range sounds ideal and would generally be altered in AF.The rest of your results should give you a clearer idea of your adrenal function...keep us posted :-) 1,074 hits
Forum: Adrenal Fatigue Support
www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=2116315Re: Trying to figure out what is happening!!! by wiredgeneration
11 y
This has very little to do with people agreeing with me at all, yet you are attempting to make it seem like so. Lets point out what you actually did. You claimed (and YES you did, please can we have the missing posts back) that Af didnt exist. This is what gets peoples backs up on here. There is an AF debate forum for that sort of discussion, same with debating whether healed posters have AF or not. Out of respect to people on here, future AF sufferers and recvoered AFers would it not be better to start your rants on the debate forum to avoid unnecesary upset. Your referral to other ... 4,190 hits
Forum: Adrenal Fatigue Acid Reflux Anxiety Ask CureZone Bone Spurs
www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=2162544Re: Veganism and Adrenal fatigue by Wild0ne
11 y
I disagree, there are other ways to damage your adrenals besides not eating. High Stress jobs, working out too hard, damaging your CNS etc. are all possible. Adrenal fatigue is just a term meaning damaged adrenals. Anorexia damages the adrenals and thus causes Adrenal fatigue. But not every case of adrenal fatigue is linked to starvation. Anorexia is linked to AF, but AF is not always linked to Anorexia 2,007 hits
Forum: Adrenal Debate
www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=2156492Re: Adrenal Fatigue, Hypothyroidism, Heavy metal toxins, ... by wiredgeneration
11 y
or tank the adrenals into oblivion. Dont treat the thyroid before the adrenals, and dont force a heavy detox until the adrenals are supported. Standard knowledgeAlthough we have no gospel in AF, I really urge you CB to read the books by Dr Lam, Dr Wilson, Dr Poesnicker CB and learn about AF and CFS. 4,720 hits
Forum: Ask CureZone Adrenal Fatigue Hypothyroid Allergies Anxiety Depression
www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=2162246Re: Supplement without sugar/maltodextrin by Faith110
11 y
If you have AF..which you do if you have low cortisol, then multivitamins are an absolute nightmare. The one you just described sounds like a serious cocktail. Ive seen a handful (if that) of people who have actually had success with adrenal complex supplements like this. Ive seen many who actually got set back by them. It really all depends on how advanced your case is. If youre in a severe stage of AF I wouldnt recommend something like this 1,116 hits
Forum: Adrenal Fatigue
www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=2161647Re: Brain atrophy (shrinkage). HELP. by wiredgeneration
11 y
You havent had the proper curezone experience yet! We have a toxic troll that comes in from time to time. I think it is when he is on release from an institution as they are sporadic but then happen frequently...he fell in love with me and stalked every post I made, hence why I have a new wiredgeneration profile :) , Then there was a fruit nutter claiming people with AF actually have rabies or Malaria because AF dosent exist and that we should eat 10,000 sugar calories a day and we would be healthy... Funnily neither of them ever had adrenal fatigue :) 5,225 hits
Forum: Brain Injury Abuse Adrenal Fatigue
www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=2161259Can Vit. C help digestive problems? by AngelofEventide
11 y View Entire Thread 2
I have AF, candida, parasites, Lyme disease, etc. I have been having horrendous stomach issues (bloating and gas in upper stomach, after eating that doesnt go away and I take digestive enzymes as well as Betaine HCL, bloating presses on vagus nerve causing anxiety attacks, rapid heartbeat, occasional diarrhea, etc.). I havent had any Vit. C since treating the AF and I wonder if it would help all of these symptoms. Is Liposomal the recommended form of C? Thanks. 1,818 hits
Forum: Vitamin C
www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=2159640Re: What to take for sleep? by Tena Cious
11 y
http://forums.phoenixrising.me/index.php?threads/impact-of-sleep-and-its-disturbances-on-hypothalamo-pituitary-adrenal-axis-activity.28124/#post-428556I found once a study that proves that sleep dysfunction causes a shift towards the sympathetic branch of the nervous system. Of course, without proper sleep AF will never be healed, because for many unrefreshing sleep is the cause or one of the causes of AF! 2,030 hits
Forum: Adrenal Fatigue
www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=2150859Re: Total Cortisol: 9.8! by tknoppe
11 y
Thanks! I had someone on another forum look at my levels and tell me I did not have AF at all. Yet, when I look at all symptoms, how I feel - and with a score of 177 on Dr Wilsons AF Questionnaire, Im not more confused than ever. I had a health professional read my saliva test results and tell me I did have it; then someone else reads the same results and tells me I dont. UGH! 1,646 hits
Forum: Adrenal Fatigue
www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=2202495AF and hormone imbalances? by AngelofEventide
11 y View Entire Thread 9
Just womdering if any women here could attribute their AF to perimenopause or menopause? All of my AF and POtS like symptoms started when my Perimenooause symptoms started. Seems awfully coincidental. 1,983 hits
Forum: Adrenal Fatigue
www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=2194277Re: Cortisol imbalance cause candida by wiredgeneration
11 y
Definitely a good point, but are you referring to AF or CFS/ME? AF is a stress disorder, would MTHFR cause pysiological and autonomic damage by prolonged periods of stress? Maybe it adds to a weakened system which allows stress to go out control? 3,734 hits
Forum: Candida Adrenal Fatigue
www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=2190185Re: Cortisol imbalance cause candida by LymegirlPA
11 y
From my limited understanding, a MTHFR gene defect renders us less able to manage stress which contributes to a sustained flight mode, which taxes adrenals, which leads to AF. People with AF & people with CFS/ME can be negatively impacted by this from what Ive read. Also, people with Lyme disease (moi), candida etc... 3,792 hits
Forum: Candida Adrenal Fatigue
www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=2190446Re: Hair Loss by charkee
11 y
If you have common alopecia it most often has to do with the loss of a loved one. Could be a GF, a pet, a parent or friend. Once you overcome the stress of the loss, the hair will regrow. AF is a different matter, it often deals with being overwhelmed by life in general. It could also be about indecision and not knowing what to do about your life. Perhaps your major crash triggered both the alopecia and AF? 2,261 hits
Forum: Adrenal Fatigue
www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=2226255Re: Rename the 'AF' support forum to Starvation Fatigue by natway
11 y
Well since the webmaster is the one who controls the forum and the only one to rename things, thats why Im asking them.As to whether or not the rest of the forum agrees with me or not about AF, does the medical community base medical conditions on what most of their patients believe? No, they base medical conditions on science and evidence and the evidence is clear on 6,066 hits
Forum: Webmaster Debate
www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=2218995Re: Why do I get tired and spacey even after drinking? by fizzayp0p
11 y
hi ive gotten all standard type blood tests...doctors always say everything is normal. my morning cortisol is a bit low apparently but thats about it. my naturopath said i do have AF but does AF cause those symptoms? im afraid to eat someitmes lol 4,598 hits
Forum: Adrenal Fatigue Autoimmune Cause of Disease Brain Fog Hypoglycemia CFS, ME, CFIDS
www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=2211338Re: Adrenal fatigue. LOW CORTISOL AND DHEA by purplepixie
10 y
How much Vit C are you taking?That can lower cortisol.Google about that relationship...its interesting.Dr Lam suggests Vit C for High cortisol AF - the beginning stage of AF - it can help bring cortisol levels down.If youre megadosing Vit C - that *could* be a potential cause of your very low cortisol levels..? 2,921 hits
Forum: Adrenal Fatigue
www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=2243398Re: Is premature aging from adrenal fatigue reversable? by Klauss
10 y
when you find correct protocol (all people are different), AF will step back. As your symptoms are going away, you will see changes. Skin improves colour, tone, nails, etc. skin under eyes takes longer to improve.All this secondary. First you need to start feeling better, just like you felt before AF.Klauss. 1,497 hits
Forum: Adrenal Fatigue
www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=2267211Re: Severely ill after juicing - detoxification or oxalat... by Steve888
9 y
I think you need B vitamins, minerals, and a good protein source when trying to heal AF. Juicing by itself is too yin, you need more yang energy foods to heal AF. Cooked vegetables and protein is a good start. 2,389 hits
Forum: Adrenal Fatigue Liver Flush Hypothyroid Juicing Brain Fog Ask CureZone
www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=2316515Re: Where is your weight? by sanctuary2
18 y
Since starting iodine I have gained around 25 pounds. Initially around 15 pounds and held still at that weight for several months and recently I have gained another 10 or so. At first I attributed it to the iodine, but now I am convinced that it has more to do with stress and AF. I am extremely stressed right now and my AF has gotten much worse, and hence, my weight has gone up.Although I have increased my iodine dosage again very recently, I dont think it has anything to do with the weight gain. 1,877 hits
Forum: Iodine Supplementation
www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1053999Re: No Vaccine-Autism Link by Dangerous Bacon
17 y
Immunization against measles has resulted in a drop in worldwide measles deaths from 747,000 annually to 242,000. http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/11/29/africa/AF-GEN-Africa-Measles.phpIn the U.S., there used to be thousands of cases of death or serious injury annually from measles, and vastly greater numbers of children sickened by this vaccine-preventable disease.Antivaxers would prefer that we return to these dark ages.Why? 3,651 hits
Forum: Vaccination Debate
www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1084859Did this get worse when you were pregnant? by rally
19 y
If it did check out why am I always so tired? by Melissa Smith pregancny causes you to retain copper thus effecting the adrenals. Dont worry its not in your head, thats bull_____ for we are too stupid to figure out the problem. I had 30 symptoms of AF at one time MDs in general treat symptoms not the problem. I finally found a wholistic MD that diagnosed me with AF, he had just led the horse to the water. 1,710 hits
Forum: Adrenal Fatigue
www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=556115Question!!!! by dar2222
19 y View Entire Thread 4
Hi every one ,I got a little bit confused about AF.Is a condition when the adrenal glands function below necessary level.So does it mean that when we have a test done the cortisol level is low?In My case the cortisol level and DHEA are way to high ,so can I say that I suffer from AF or it is totally different story.I posted My saliva test results before in one of My posts,if any one can look at them and try to explain what they mean.thank you very much. 1,118 hits
Forum: Adrenal Fatigue
www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=556120Healing Codes by #50747
20 y View Entire Thread 2
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Forum: Quantum Healing
www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=391063To #29086 by sabs
19 y
HI,Consider Candida in addition to AF, your symtpoms suggest it: painful lymph nodes, severe rash in genital area, sugar & carb addiction.And Hypothyroidism: no sex drive, slow hair loss on head, no energy, weight 130kg,insomnia, constipation, dramatic mood swings, possibly responsible for back and arm pain as being hypothyroid causes joint pain and pain in general.And PCOS (Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome - not sure if thats spelt right!): dark hairs on face, not ovutating (possible symptom, but check as Im not too familiar with this syndrome), weight 130kg, dramatic mood swings ... 1,501 hits
Forum: Adrenal Fatigue
www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=556231Re: Side effects - heart by twllLL
19 y
Ive been OPing for nearly a month.I have a tendency to AF.No problems with it or OPing.Ill get a 2 or 3 second quicky every now & then.My main trigger for it wasFiber Therapy.It sounds crazy but that was the main culprit.I would wake up at 2:00 amor so with it acting crazy & last for 10-15 min.Anyway it got to when i would take the fiber therapy it would start trying to go into AF & i did the usual thing to stop it.Something else that gives me quickies is pycnogenal & Vitamin C !!!Try & avoid OPing before bedtime.Also avoid supplements before bedtime.Go to oilpulling.com & cl ... 6,895 hits 1 of 1 (100%)
Forum: Oil Pulling
www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=110270Re: adrenal support supplements...suggestions? by SeattleTom
17 y
Hi Chikitta - I strongly recommend Adrenal Drops and Adrenal Complex Capsules. Both are manufactured by Professional Complementary Health Products of Portland, OR. They made a huge differnce for me when I learned I had AF years ago.People with AF usually have copper overload as well. Id recommend checking out previous posts on this topic, and http://www.drlwilson.com. Also, Why am I Always so Tired? by Ann Louise Gittleman explains the relationship between AF and copper overload. I hope this helps. 3,134 hits
Forum: Adrenal Fatigue Chelation Support CFS / CFIDS
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